04/22/2005
Pope Benedict XVI Condemns Gay Marriage in Spain
The new Pope has stormed out of the gate with a highly enlightened statement (not!) from his spokesperson on the gay marriage bill that is breezing through Spain's parliament:
"Roman Catholic officials should be prepared to lose their jobs rather than co-operate with the law."
The legislation has been described by the Vatican as "profoundly iniquitous."
Well, is anyone surprised?
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Oh, I'm soooo surprised! I guess it is more important that the 1.6 million children waiting to be adopted or placed in foster homes, wait for a nice heterosexual couple. As Cardinal Ratzinger, he talked about returning to the saying of mass in Latin! I think the pontiff is a bit behind the times all around.
Posted by: Patric | Apr 22, 2005 10:04:45 AM
Fuck the pope!
Posted by: Me | Apr 22, 2005 10:20:51 AM
What gets me is that the Pope doesn't realize there's a difference between religious ceremonies and civil ceremonies. If he doesn't want us to get married in the Catholic Church, fine by me. Fuck him. Marriage by the Catholic Church won't help me out any. But marriage in a civil ceremony could have a number of advantages and the Pope has no jurisdiction over them whatsoever.
So why should the Pope care unless he thinks politicians will start pressuring the Church to perform gay marriage? Isn't that what all this concern is about? Being usurped?
It's all about consolidation of power. Expect to see more of it.
Posted by: Edwardo | Apr 22, 2005 10:26:45 AM
That's true..there's a profound difference between civil and religious marriage. Religious conservatives just can't see that difference, however. Sad.
It says something about his priorities when his first address is about gay marriage and not poverty, the AIDS crisis, the widening North-South gap or anything relevant to the largest constituency of the Catholic Church- those in Africa, Asia and South America..
Way to make the Catholic church irrelevant, eh?
Posted by: WM | Apr 22, 2005 10:30:53 AM
So where are our pope-defenders from the last couple posts?
Posted by: bmw | Apr 22, 2005 10:51:27 AM
Once a Nazi, always a Nazi....
Posted by: cafegogo | Apr 22, 2005 11:16:03 AM
If the population of heaven is made up of these "christians" then I'd rather burn in Hell...sounds like a much better time! Can someone pass the marshmallows? I've got some smores to burn!
Posted by: Wayne | Apr 22, 2005 11:38:36 AM
If the population of heaven is made up of these "christians" then I'd rather burn in Hell...sounds like a much better time! Can someone pass the marshmallows? I've got some smores to burn!
Posted by: Wayne | Apr 22, 2005 11:38:38 AM
Hey Dreadaught, you surprised?
Posted by: BJ | Apr 22, 2005 11:48:02 AM
Nazi is too charged a word to toss around so cavalierly. See the NY Times article of April 21st: "Few See Taint in Service by Pope in Hitler Youth", it offers a view of a few persons with compulsory Nazi pasts and their role in post WW2 Germany. Make no mistake though, I dislike this pope as much as anybody!
Posted by: Timothy Eckert | Apr 22, 2005 11:48:49 AM
Not surprised at all.
Posted by: Jess | Apr 22, 2005 11:48:59 AM
Nazi is too charged a word to toss around so cavalierly. See the NY Times article of April 21st: "Few See Taint in Service by Pope in Hitler Youth", it offers a view of a few persons with compulsory Nazi pasts and their role in post WW2 Germany. Make no mistake though, I dislike this pope as much as anybody!
Posted by: Timothy Eckert | Apr 22, 2005 11:50:37 AM
Yes, Nazi is too charged (perhaps), but so is calling gays "immoral." If he can name-call, so can I. Besides, I wasn't the one in the Hitler Youth Camp...
Posted by: cafegogo | Apr 22, 2005 11:54:23 AM
And didn't Pope John Paul risk his own life in Poland during the war to save the Jews? It seems like he was willing to risk his own life in the face of evil while this pope willingly went along. What about Christian martyrdom? What a real asshole. The Church's decline is going to accelerate with this guy and I couldn't be happier.
Posted by: David | Apr 22, 2005 12:37:20 PM
*passes Wayne some marshmallows*
Nice to be attacked right off the bat, poope. What is it exactly about homosexuality that is SO threatening to the church anyway? Homosexuals have been around much longer than the church.
Anybody...?
Posted by: Greg | Apr 22, 2005 12:54:08 PM
I have no idea, Greg. As Pauline Kael once said about homophobes, "Do they really think heterosexuality can't hold it's own in an open market?" It's truly mystifying...
*passes Wayne the Bible*
Posted by: cafegogo | Apr 22, 2005 1:21:07 PM
oops, my fire's going out...ah, here's this handy bible that Cafegogo gave me...perfect! Smores are Served!!
Posted by: Wayne | Apr 22, 2005 1:34:09 PM
I have many straight friends who think this guy is off his rocker. Even the catholic ones.
If they think he's a "jerk", "dumbass", and too old to be the new pope, then I don't feeling bad in saying the same.
They want to see some modern views in the church as much as I do, for sake of others anyway.
Posted by: Rob | Apr 22, 2005 2:05:17 PM
Apparently Pope Adolph is planning on making a statement telling all Catholic U.S. politicians that if they support abortion rights or gay marriage, they should not be allowed to take Communion. As a non-Catholic, I think this is great. This Pope is going to divide the church so dramatically that this institution of bigotry, hypocrisy, and child molestation will come crashing down. Just about a thousand years too late, unfortunately.
Posted by: Steve | Apr 22, 2005 2:20:48 PM
hi from spain,
the reason i voted zapatero was because he does not feel threatened either by bush or the pope.a real democrat.....ole
Posted by: marcel | Apr 22, 2005 4:18:53 PM
It's great that Benedict 16th does not have a 16th century ideology. He's more of ... 19th century autocrat.
Rod
brotha2Brotha
Posted by: rod | Apr 22, 2005 5:15:35 PM
Well, if he WAS the Emperor he could just shoot us with his dark force energy lightning bolt things.
I guess you just have to make do.
Posted by: david | Apr 22, 2005 7:37:36 PM
In regards to his statement about politicians who support abortion rights not getting communion. It is not something he is going to do, as the defender of faith under John Paul II he said it already, in October of 2004 in reference to John Kerry. It is speculated he cost Kerry significant catholic votes due to his statement. As you can see this man even before becoming Pope had influence over the American Political system.
Posted by: Steve | Apr 23, 2005 12:59:03 AM
Not surprised. Fuck him. And his make believe sky tyrant.
Posted by: Steve | Apr 23, 2005 11:17:39 AM
Not surprised. Fuck him. And his make believe sky tyrant.
Posted by: Steve | Apr 23, 2005 11:17:39 AM