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Vice President to Break his Silence

Cheney_growlDick Cheney will soon break his silence about the hunting accident in an interview with Fox News. The question is, will the questions be as loaded as Cheney's gun?

Politicians on both sides of the aisle are troubled at the VP's silence over the hunting incident that nearly killed (and still may kill) a 78-year-old man. It is causing "strain" in the White House too.

Cheney might have defused the incident quickly with a statement and apology but the fact that both the news about the actual shooting and the news of Whittington's heart attack were withheld for hours is causing both media and politicians to suspect that something larger is afoot here.

A few reactions from here and there:

Cheney_gunWashington Post: "Vice President Cheney's slow and unapologetic public response to the accidental shooting of a 78-year-old Texas lawyer is turning the quail-hunting mishap into a political liability for the Bush administration and is prompting senior White House officials to press Cheney to publicly address the issue as early as today, several prominent Republicans said yesterday."

Hillary Clinton: "A tendency of this administration -- from the top all the way to the bottom -- is to withhold information ... to refuse to be forthcoming about information that is of significance and relevance to the jobs that all of you do, and the interests of the American people. Putting it all together, going back years now, there's a pattern and it's a pattern that should be troubling..The refusal of this administration to level with the American people on matters large and small is very disturbing, because it goes counter to the way our constitutional democracy ... is supposed to work."

Details about Cheney's companions and questions regarding his state of sobriety during the incident are slowly emerging:

Think Progress reports on a passage that was removed from an MSNBC article regarding the drinking activities of Cheney's hunting party.

Bob Cesca : Was Cheney hiding his Lewinsky? "Sirius radio's Alex Bennett just broke a rumor that the delay in reporting the news that Cheney shot an old man in the heart was due to an effort to hide or spin Cheney's female companion."

Not sure how you "break a rumor" but it's certainly a juicy hypothesis.

RJ Eskow: "The real story is already emerging, if you're willing to do a little digging. Cheney and Whittington went hunting with two women (not their wives), there was some drinking, and Whittington wound up shot. Armstrong didn't see the incident but claimed she had, Cheney refused to be questioned by the Sheriff until the next morning, and a born-again evangelical physician has been downplaying Whittington's injuries since they occurred. Neither the press nor law enforcement seems inclined to investigate."

No doubt there will soon be the announcement of a high level terrorist threat to a major American city to get this off the front page.

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  1. If this were a democtatic administration. People would be calling for a special prosecuter and congressional hearings. All you Bush lovers know this is true to deny it will only show how blinded you are. I can see Bob Barr now (if he were still in the congress) racing to the floor with a call to action only to be beat out by Little Ricky in the senate.

    Posted by: Donald | Feb 15, 2006 11:47:11 AM

  2. Ah Hillary Clinton. Remember her 30 hour delay in getting out to the press the details of Vince Foster's "suicide," leading to rampant conspiracy speculations?

    Yep, I cannot think of anyone more qualified to comment on this issue than Hillary. LOL!

    Posted by: Cato | Feb 15, 2006 12:15:46 PM

  3. I agree Cato this is an area where she should keep quiet.

    Posted by: Donald | Feb 15, 2006 12:21:41 PM

  4. Gotta admit, the PIAPS has some big brass hairy hanging ones to even mention an "administration that refuses to level"...

    Posted by: Tom | Feb 15, 2006 12:39:03 PM

  5. Hillary is running for higher office so she has to put her foot in her mouth. Strange she will put her foot in her mouth but she won’t put anything else in her mouth...hence the scandal in the last Administration.

    Most attorneys agree the VP might have been drinking on his hunting expo. Who hasn’t knocked back a few and gotten in a car. Done things while under the influence they might not do otherwise. It was a break from a stressful job and he was out with friends having a good time. Is it a crime to have fun now? If he was tipsy then an accident could have happened. If he had a good attorney they would advise him to keep his mouth shut. Careful boys before you start throwing those stones.

    At least the story is off the NSA and those silly spying inquiries

    Posted by: Matthew Schooler | Feb 15, 2006 12:53:38 PM

  6. This administration seems to be dogged by amazingly horrible karma, one blunder leading to the next. There is no accountability, bizarre secrecy in every action and above all unprecedented arrogance. Their is a sense of doom surrounding Cheney. Too many have taken the fall for the evil shit he has wrought.

    As far as Hiliary's input, I disagree Cato and Donald, Hil got everything coming to her at the hands of Bill's very public missteps. She played the fool blaming the "hard right" for the allegations surrounding the whole Lewinsky shit show.

    F*@K! Somebody has to wake up and clock these idiots for a SHAM of a war, the enormous, unforgiveable debacle in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina (I'm from New Orleans.) A major metropolitan city in the US still lies in ruins as this administration's promises fade like ink on an old newspaper.

    Maybe this is the one time Cheney can't hide or there's no one to be his bitch and take the fall. I have only thing to say to Cheney and it's his own words: "Go fuck yourself!"

    Posted by: Matthew | Feb 15, 2006 1:00:44 PM

  7. maybe the poor gal was drinking to have shot off her mouth like that...


    Posted by: Tom | Feb 15, 2006 1:08:11 PM

  8. Um, if it's true he was drinking and then accidentally shot someone, how exactly is this different from drinking, jumping in a car and hitting someone ?

    Or (let me beat you to the punch) drinking, and driving off a bridge with a passenger in the car ?

    Posted by: Chris in SF | Feb 15, 2006 1:14:01 PM

  9. So what your saying M S is that the VPOTUS shot someone, tried to push it under the carpet and it is no big deal? I wanted to make sure I was clear on that.

    I am sure it was an accident and if that's the case why all the cloak and dagger? Is he above the law, is he beyond accountablity, is it really none of the peoples business when the VPOTUS shoots somebody?
    If that is the case I hope you feel the same way when a future non-conservative VPOTUS does something so careless.

    Posted by: Donald | Feb 15, 2006 1:14:09 PM

  10. Donald: I don't read Matthew's post as saying it's OK to shoot someone if you're drunk. I think he's making the direct connection to Senator Kennedy who did exactly as Matthew indicates...went out drinking (certainly most of us can relate), cheated on his spouse (if we could get married, many of could relate) had a horrible accident (I hope none of us can relate) and didn't say anything to anyone until after contacting an attorney.

    Senator Clinton is really whacked about this particular issue, although not the greater issue of this administration's secrecy.

    Posted by: JT | Feb 15, 2006 1:33:48 PM

  11. Oh so because Ted Kennedy got away with a tragic accident it is OK for Cheney to blow off shooting someone. OK, that makes sense.

    Posted by: Donald | Feb 15, 2006 1:50:44 PM

  12. I was indeed saying that we all do things, with the exception of Donald, while under the influence we might not normally do. I would think his attorney would advise him to keep quiet until they could get the full story. They could then address the public. This is not to keep secrets from the world. It is simply a lawyer doing his job.

    This scandal will go away like every other so called national emergency. The press is always trying to dig up something in their hatred of this President and VP.

    I guess the VP will have to get up in front of the Nation and say “I did not get drunk with a woman and shoot my friend. Not once not ever”, oh wait that was the last Administration.

    Donald I am giving up Christ and following you. A picture of perfection in this world...

    Posted by: Matthew Schooler | Feb 15, 2006 1:56:04 PM

  13. Seems like that's the case, Donald.

    Forcing the country into an unwanted war and profiting from the conduct of that war can be a super stress job. Guy needs to find a way to unwind...can't expect him to go to Iraq and shoot terrorists, he's got other priorities.

    Posted by: Chris in SF | Feb 15, 2006 1:57:46 PM

  14. Donald, Donald, Donald...won't you, please, read my post more carefully? The comment indicates that I read Matthew's post as supporting Ted Kennedy. IRONY, SARCASM, SICK HUMOR maybe, but it certainly doesn't fall into the category of making a comment on whether it's ok or not for the VP to shoot somebody. Since you brought it up, though, you are being extraordinarily hypocritical if you think the law should come slamming down on Mr. Cheney but was correct in its handling of the Kennedy accident.

    The event, itself, is not the issue. It was an accident and should be treated as such. The issues are, rather, rather minor and go to the penchant for secrecy. Now, if Mr. Cheney was on a love trip with one of the women…or the man…and he denies it under oath and it is found to have been the case, then he should be impeached.

    Posted by: JT | Feb 15, 2006 2:01:02 PM

  15. >>turning the quail-hunting mishap into a political liability

    Was it ever going to be anything else? Cheney knew it would make him a laughing stock, if not a villian, as soon as it hit the press. The reporter who broke the news said the first call came in to her paper, from Cheney's host, within 12 hours. Not all that much of a delay, considering the police had been informed within the first hour.

    BTW, Chrisinsf, Kennedy killed a girl and left her body in the water overnight, without seeking help. Cheney shot a guy and got him immediate medical attention... that's the difference, buddy.

    Posted by: Jay Croce | Feb 15, 2006 2:05:55 PM

  16. True, Jay, but I'm referring to the moral implications in both instances.

    I fail to see that being under the influence is an honorable defence when someone has been harmed/killed. And that's true whether Democrat or Republican.

    Getting somone immediate assistance is the appropriate thing to do. The question remains as to whether there should be liability if alcohol was involved.

    Posted by: Chris in SF | Feb 15, 2006 2:18:33 PM

  17. Who reported anything about drinking? I joked that the Secret Service must have been carrying their beer cooler. Other than that, I haven't heard any reference to alcohol.

    Kennedy is the drunken murderer. Stop projecting.

    Posted by: Jay Croce | Feb 15, 2006 3:16:55 PM

  18. I think the law should have come down on Ted and he should have gone to jail, I never said otherwise. I took the comments as we all make mistakes and because Ted got off Dick should too, that is what I took exception to. If I misunderstood than I apologize.

    As far as being perfect, well I never killed anyone and I never shot anyone,and I don't think a three way counts as cheating, I pay my taxes and I give to charity freely. But you know what I have gone over the speed limit and I have spit out my gum out the car window (though I did feel bad about that). If anyone chooses to walk with me rather than G-d all are welcome into the house of Donald. Be prepared for a boring service.

    Posted by: Donald | Feb 15, 2006 3:22:58 PM

  19. Look, the rumors, suspicions and theories are going to be swirling around this whole thing. The "sources" of the drinking speculation are hardly unbiased. The "sources" about the possible relationship between the VP and a female companion are suspect. The only thing anyone does know for certain is that Mr. Whittington is injured and deserves

    Posted by: JT | Feb 15, 2006 3:39:42 PM

  20. ...our best wishes. Damn computers.

    Posted by: JT | Feb 15, 2006 3:46:52 PM

  21. Jay, if you bothered to read Andy's post above, you'd know that there was mention of drinking. Do you always post without taking time to read the story, or is today special ?

    I never offered any defence of Kennedy, he should be held liable. If Cheney was drinking, he should be held liable too.

    Posted by: Chris in SF | Feb 15, 2006 4:00:45 PM

  22. Well the VP had a beer with lunch a few hours prior. The shooting was an embarrassing incident but hardly illegal. If I had done something stupid it would be very hard to admit but I would eventually do it. It seems most of you are more humble then the rest of us mortals. Living perfect lives and admitting right away when you have done stupid things. I admire your God like qualities.

    Posted by: Matthew Schooler | Feb 15, 2006 4:08:20 PM

  23. Thank you they are very admirable. Now go a sin no more (unless you are having wild gay safe sex).

    Posted by: Donald | Feb 15, 2006 4:38:02 PM

  24. If Hillary Clinton is criticizing you for "withholding information," you must really be in trouble.

    Posted by: CJ | Feb 15, 2006 5:10:14 PM

  25. This from Americablog...

    Uh, Cheney just lied to Britt Hume on FOX
    by John in DC - 2/15/2006 05:05:00 PM

    If Cheney shot his friend in the face and chest because the friend was hiding behind some bushes, as Cheney alleges (remember, all this time the Cheney people said it was the other guy's fault for hiding and not announcing himself), then how did Cheney watch his friend fall to the ground?

    From E&P:
    "The image of him falling is something I will never be able to get out my mind," Cheney said, somberly. "It was one of the worst days of my life."

    If you could see him the split second AFTER you shot him, then you could see him the split second BEFORE you shot him. So either Cheney could see the guy, and shot him anyway (which completely contradicts what Cheney's people have been saying for 5 days now), or Cheney couldn't see the guy and he's now lying to the nation in order to incur our sympathy.

    Posted by: Brian NYC | Feb 15, 2006 5:22:37 PM

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