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Gay_slurroad.jpg Two crew athletes at the University of Washington have been dismissed from the team after painting a six letter gay slur (you can probably guess what it is, though news orgs. don't seem to want to print it) on the fence of another crew team member who missed practice because he was ill. Because of the team member's absence, the crew team was reportedly given a slower rowing substitute who caused their boat to lose to a women's team. One of the athletes has already apologized to neighbors who live in the area of the targeted crew member, but UW officials say that's not enough to get him back on the team: "UW athletic director Todd Turner is supporting the dismissal, saying the coach's decision was a very appropriate action."

road.jpg Barbra Streisand and Meryl Streep both snub Will & Grace producers' request for guest cameo on final show.

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road.jpg Rich folks heading to the Kentucky Derby this year will be able to spend their disposable dollars on a $1,000 mint julep in a 24-karat gold cup with a silver straw, made from Kentucky's finest bourbons. Distillery: "Mint from Morocco, ice from the Arctic Circle and sugar from the South Pacific will put this mint julep in a class of its own."

road.jpg Fantastic Four hunk Chris Evans really wanted a free drink.

road.jpg TAB: Simon Cowell is a chest groomer.

road.jpg Gay Games rowers get final approval for Crystal Lake venue.

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  1. Dismissed from the team ? - They should be dismissed from the school.

    Posted by: Patrick ONeill | Apr 12, 2006 10:32:11 AM


  2. good morning andy...
    chest groomer..?? i don't even have to read a story. chest groomer?? the word pairing alone -- separate from a tad bit self-involved -- is amusingly absurd.

    Posted by: ricardo | Apr 12, 2006 10:35:35 AM


  3. Thank the maker that Babs and Meryl have more class than to appear on Will & Grace. The show ran out of steam 5 seasons ago, but decided that "Stunt Casting" was the way to save the remaining one-dimensional characters.

    Now if only the fads it started would end (like the 'Just Jack' hair that half the population of P-town wears from Memorial day through Labor day).

    Posted by: Rad | Apr 12, 2006 10:54:06 AM


  4. I am more offended by the reporting on the "slur" than I am by the slur itself. It if very clear that they weren't talking about a "slur that is offensive to gays" but a "gay slur". There is a BIG difference. Everyone involved with this story (the neighbor, the reporter, the "victim" and the perps) are clearly talking about how offensive it was to be called gay, not how offensive the word "faggot" is. One person even says, "It was not appropriate for the neighborhood". What the hell is that supposed to mean?

    Even the letter of apology is painfully worded in order to make it clear that they are apologizing for offending the rower and his neighbors while completely denying that they intended to offend the carefully not mentioned target group of the un-uttered slur.

    They NEVER call it a "gay slur" as Towleroad does. They call it a slur. It's very clear to me that they consider it a slur more based on the "accusasion" and offense of calling someone gay more than because the word is extremely offensive and used to degrade, demean and dehumanise a minority.

    I wonder how they would cover a story where a person is targeted with the word "nigger". The victim and his neighbors make statements expressing that they are extremely offended because the victim isn't black. The new media reports the incident as a slur, but it was clear that they meant a slur to call a white person black and not the word and it meaning.

    Everytime a come down on a person for using the term "faggot" they ALWAYS say, "Oh man, I didn't mean it like that". Well BULLSHIT! They meant it exactly like that. If not they would have used another word. The fact of the matter is, the greatest insult in America today is to call another person gay using the most negative word that they can think of to state it. Then they try to make you look like you have no sense of humor, or you're too uptight, or you are too sensitive, or YOU misunderstood what they meant. It's time we stand up for ourselves and stop being pussies. I don't let people say "nigger" around me (and I'm from Mississippi) and I sure as hell don't let people use "faggot" around me. I'm too much of a man to sit silently by while people degrade and insult me, and people like me.

    Posted by: Zeke | Apr 12, 2006 11:08:40 AM


  5. Go Zeke!

    Posted by: Liam | Apr 12, 2006 11:14:13 AM


  6. Wise of Barbra Streisand and Meryl Streep not to appear on *that show*.

    Why gays supported W&G is beyond me, as it portrayed yet another in a long line of queeny characters, which are the only types the so called "mainstream" viewers can tolerate.

    Its final show can't come soon enough.

    Posted by: protogenes | Apr 12, 2006 11:15:28 AM


  7. Sorry for the typos and grammar. Posted before I proofed.

    Posted by: Zeke | Apr 12, 2006 11:18:01 AM


  8. Why aren't we boycotting the Caribean?

    Posted by: joe | Apr 12, 2006 11:30:01 AM


  9. I love the whole "Will & Grace perpetuates disgraceful stereotypes we should shun" argument. Perhaps it would be nice if a few more queens shunned that sterotype in their own behaviour. Ha!

    Posted by: Peter Rivendell | Apr 12, 2006 11:42:23 AM


  10. "Perhaps it would be nice if a few more queens shunned that sterotype in their own behaviour"

    Hard to do when the media seems to favour that very stereotype.

    Posted by: protogenes | Apr 12, 2006 12:01:03 PM


  11. Zeke, I liked your post but then was a littled surprised when you used the word "pussies" as a "slur". Seems to be the same thing you are complaining about. :)

    Posted by: Dan | Apr 12, 2006 12:46:28 PM


  12. While I understand the concern that all gays get sterotyped by shows like Will & Grace, I hope the concern is that gays will then be thought of as a monolith, with the result being that our individuality and diversity is hidden from most folks.

    However, some comments hereon and in discussions such as these generally seem to complain that sissies and pansies and fems are grouped with gay folk, and that grouping proves a source of embarrassment.

    I think that's bullshit. It's the fems, sissies, and drag queens that put the gay community on the map, while "straight-looking, straight-acting" gays hid in the closet. The sissies, fems and drag queens are the most courageous part of our community, and we should never forget it. I, for one, an thankful for what they did and do for us. At the very least, they should certainly not be the object of any scorn.

    Oh, and Zeke, great post above.

    Posted by: Kyle Childress | Apr 12, 2006 1:13:01 PM


  13. Six cheers for Zeke!!! And, I also stand to defend his use of the word "pussies." It has evolved to mean someone "weak and cowardly" of EITHER gender, and is not ipso facto sexist.

    As for the statues Kyle wants to build to all the "courageous" "fems, sissies, and drag queens"—save the bronze. Most have spent far more time at Barney's than they have "on the barricades." And I write that AS someone so "fem" I couldn't pass for straight in a fog, but also someone tired of all the myth perpetuation. Too few "fems, sissies, and drag queens" have actually consciously done anything "for us" to deserve canonization as a class. Does every Black man or woman deserve a medal for advancing Black civil rights simply because he/she is black? Of course not. In both cases, there is the argument that they deserve credit for simply "being themselves," but that is quite different from the apocrypha about the Stonewall Riots, etc.

    Until someone succeeds in convincing the world that there isn't any superiority in being a "manly" male or that personal worth has nothing to do with what one wears [and WHICH significant group IS seriously addressing that issue?], it will still be necessary to point out to the ignorant that not all gays are alike. "Good" stereotypes [e.g., "all gays have excellent taste"] or intrinsically "neutral" stereotypes [e.g., "all gay men are nelly/all lesbians are butch"] are just as dangerous as bad stereotypes [e.g., "all gay men are child molestors"] because it is the nature of the humans to transfer the observation of one to the credibility of all. Many straights who pride themselves on cackling at Carson's latest preening, premediated bon mot are quite likely to think that his mincing manner means he "wants to be a woman" and that that makes him twisted in some way.

    Posted by: Leland | Apr 12, 2006 2:47:58 PM


  14. "The sissies, fems and drag queens are the most courageous part of our community, and we should never forget it. I, for one, an thankful for what they did and do for us."

    Not sure all they did for us was positive.

    Posted by: protogenes | Apr 12, 2006 3:08:19 PM


  15. I was waiting and wondering when L would pop up to blast Mr. Childress and his audacity to imply that there is any good in flamboyant behavior. I think "pussy" is an unfortunate slip. I'm sure Zeke wouldn't have used it if he were writing something more formal. Well done, otherwise.

    Posted by: JT | Apr 12, 2006 3:15:48 PM


  16. 1 - Add another 'Bravo' to Zeke.

    2 - Seconding Proto's reservations on the courage of the fairies.

    3 - WHO THE FUCK WOULD ASK CHRIS EVANS TO PUT DOWN THEIR VODKA AND LEAVE?

    Posted by: Jacko | Apr 12, 2006 3:17:24 PM


  17. The point made in the last paragraph of Leland's post was the point that I tried clumsily to make in my post--that stereotypes are generally bad even if they are seemingly innocent. It is not a positive thing if people think all gay folk are the same, even if the sameness might be considered a positive thing (e.g., we all have good taste). It destroys our individuality.

    Which leads to my clarification on fems, sissies and drag queens. They too should not be similarly lumped together as some overly courageous portion of the gay community; we all know that some fems et al. aren't worth a damn. I simply wanted to acknowledge that some are very courageous, if only by getting up and facing the scorn and resentment each and everyday and doing it in a way that should provoke our respect, not our scorn. While I was playing football and basketball in high school and (presumably) playing it straight, there were others who did not take that path and faced scorn and often violence each day. I cannot begin to fathom the courage that must have taken, and I simply wanted to acknowledge that. There's also the common understanding that knowing gay folks helps others to understand our community better, and it's the fems et al. that most folks knew first, if only because they couldn't hide it.

    I suppose the short story is that I resented the broad categorization that fems et al. were an embarrassment to our community. Unfortunately, I used a broad categorization to do it.

    Posted by: Kyle Childress | Apr 12, 2006 3:27:35 PM


  18. Protogenes. One word. Stonewall.

    Posted by: Peter Rivendell | Apr 12, 2006 6:54:29 PM


  19. I’ve always thought it was kind of pathetic how some gay people go on a harangue about Will & Grace promoting negative (e.g. feminine/Amos & Andy) gay stereotypes because one of the characters is a queen.

    This is false on at least a couple of levels. First being the suggestion that Jack the queen is the only type of gay persona ever presented on the show which is, of course, absurd if you’ve actually watch it. They have paraded a multitude of gay dispositions and personality types on that show. If straights were in a situation where they feel the need to analyze everything straight to the point that they rip themselves apart right in plain view of the world that put them in that defensive position then maybe they’d be spending all their time worried about how gay people will judge them based primarily on the weekly representation of Homer Simpson. It’s embarrassing that some gay people insist that Jack is a negative representation of the gay community because he is feminine as if the whole survival of the gay community rests solely upon the shoulders of this one piece of a fictional ensemble cast.

    The suggestion that straight people are going to judge us all because the only exposure they have to gay people is Jack on Will & Grace is utter, paranoid nonsense. Beside the variety I mentioned on W&G, gay people or representations thereof have been all over the media for the past several years and most straight people know someone who is gay so few straight people can seriously suggest that the only exposure they have to gay people is from Jack on Will & Grace. It’s a ridiculous concern that some gay people use to bash other gay people with.

    If gay men who deride anything feminine within the gay male community were so secure in their decidedly non-feminine manhood they wouldn't feel the need butch themselves up by going out in search of queens to sacrifice. It's weak. Feminine gay men are not a threat to you and if you’re afraid that straight people will judge you because they have seen another gay person they can use to fit their chosen negative view of gay people then you have a problem you need to get over. You could start that process by pointing your finger not at the queenie fags and butch dykes you make fun of to elevate yourself but instead at those who are really to blame: the homophobic straight society who chooses to view us all that way.

    Pardon me.

    Posted by: Chad Hanging | Apr 12, 2006 8:00:38 PM


  20. I wrote my posting off the cuff and posted it without my usual proof reading and editing. Along with the typos and grammar errors, upon reading my post, I was very unhappy with my choice of the word "pussies". JT was right that it a slip of the tongue and Leland was right that the word has "evolved" to mean something other than a sexist, misogynist slur. HOWEVER, though I appreciate you guys having my back, these are not excuses that I accept. The fact of the matter is Dan was absolutely right. It would be very hypocritical of me to write that others use offensive language and then make excuses to legitimize it and then do the same myself.

    The use of the word was inappropriate and WAS offensive, not just because it used an intimate part of the female anatomy as a slur but also because it sends the message that it is insulting to be "accused" of being female. I see no difference in this and the "faggot" complaint I made above.

    For this I would like to sincerely apologize. It was inappropriate and I know better.

    Like I said earlier, I was born and raised in Mississippi. It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. I have come a long way from the racist, homophobic and otherwise bigoted background that I was "nurtured" in. It took me a long time to realize that the only culture I had ever known and much of what I had been taught was normal, or even righteous (by people that I loved and totally respected) was actually racist, homophobic and bigoted on many levels. It also took me a long time to realize that otherwise good people can do really nasty things in the name of culture, religion and tradition. I have recently come to the conclusion that none of these things excuse hate and otherwise good people who hate are not good people regardless of their “otherwise” status, even if (or especially if) they hate in the name of Jesus.

    Thank God, through education, travel, life experiences and a genuine desire to improve my world, and myself I've come a long way. I know I've still got a long way to go. I still slip up sometimes and say and do things that I’m not proud of, but, if nothing else: I've grown in awareness enough to recognize when I've screwed up; I've grown strong enough to admit my mistakes and shortcomings; and I've grown to be humble enough to apologize sincerely for and learn from those mistakes. As long as I'm moving forward, at whatever pace, I'm happy.

    Thanks for all the wonderful comments gentlemen and ladies. I'm really overwhelmed. Ya'll are amazing.

    Sorry for hijacking the comments with an rambling post.

    Zeke

    Posted by: Zeke | Apr 12, 2006 10:03:01 PM


  21. >> Barbra Streisand and Meryl Streep both snub Will & Grace producers' request for guest cameo on final show.


    It's a crappy sitcom that's finally been cancelled. Why would such big stars even consider appearing?

    Posted by: Jay Croce | Apr 12, 2006 11:28:05 PM


  22. Zing #473.

    Posted by: Chad Hanging | Apr 12, 2006 11:31:56 PM


  23. Zeke, I really enjoy (and generally agree) with your posts. It just struck me that we often use words without thinking about them, or how they might affect others. Everyone is so sensitive about the words that offend them (us), that they (or we) don't much think about the language that offends others. Keep posting!

    Posted by: Dan | Apr 12, 2006 11:33:19 PM


  24. Zeke, don't even trip. I've read your previous posts and therefore know that you have long since proven yourself to be intelligent and well-spoken. Your "flub" is little more than that and does not define you in my opinion. It does highlight how certain terms become mired in the muck and even the most sensitive of us find ourseleves slipping up and reflecting the world we live in. You seem like a good person to me.

    Posted by: Chad Hanging | Apr 13, 2006 12:26:36 AM


  25. "Protogenes. One word. Stonewall."

    Everyone was protesting back then. Stonewall is important, but I still think the media's faciantion with queeny characters in sitcoms and decorator shows *today* is not doing us any good.

    Posted by: protogenes | Apr 13, 2006 1:00:07 PM


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